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Ask Donnell: What's The Bible's Position On "In Vitro" Fertilization?

Ask Donnell: What's The Bible's Position On In Vitro Fertilization?

We received the following question;

"How is it viewed in The Bible when a man and a woman cannot have children but take it upon themselves to get the job done? For instance, by having their egg and sperm fertilized outside of the woman’s womb or body then placed back in the womb! What is your take on this from a biblical perspective? To me this is doing God’s work which brings up another question, Is God’s spirit in this child? God bless you."

Thanks for your question. First, let me apologize for taking so long to respond to some of the questions that have already been submitted. Keeping up with The Cracked Door Foundation has proven to be a little more challenging than we could possibly have imagined. Apart from our careers and personal lives we've been investing any time we have left into The Body Church in Atlanta, GA. Pray that The Lord send us the people we need to help shoulder the load.

Nonetheless, The Lord has provided a long term solution which we will be rolling out next week. We're very excited about what He's doing with this ministry that's been around since September, 2006. What started as a website to market my first book, I Curse Death, has grown into what you see before you now. So, on with your answer.

Ecclesiastes 11:5(NLT) - Just as you cannot understand the path of the wind or the mystery of a tiny baby growing in its mother’s womb, so you cannot understand the activity of God, who does all things.

Did you know that each of the patriarchs; Abraham, Isaac and Jacob faced fertility issues in their families? First, there was the struggle of Abraham and Sarah, then Isaac and Rebekah, then Jacob and Rachel. They all struggled to have children but in the end God worked miracles in their lives. So, fertility challenges are all over The Bible and God has proven Himself as a deliverer in many of those cases, over and over.

Infertility is a very touchy subject. When a married, Christian couple can't have children it's a troubling and difficult reality to deal with. They have chosen to do things the right way in the eyes of God by getting married before having children yet some can't seem to get the expected results. There is little you can say to a couple in that situation to truly comfort their hearts. The last thing we need to do is speak out of turn and not approach this particular topic with as much sensitivity as it deserves.

Nevertheless, just like it was when Solomon wrote Ecclesiastes 11:5, the mystery of childbirth remains a mystery today. Modern science may be able to explain the physical process from the point of conception to birth. It may also allow us to see it using ultrasound imaging and other means. Yet, nobody but God can explain when or how a human spirit enters a human body and turns an embryo into a living soul. That's the part of the process we have no power over and will never be able to control. Regardless, the question we must address today is whether or not we have the right to engage the benefits of biotechnology and modern medicine to interfere with the physical process of childbirth.

Genesis 30:1-2(NLT) - When Rachel saw that she wasn’t having any children for Jacob, she became jealous of her sister. She pleaded with Jacob, “Give me children, or I’ll die!” Then Jacob became furious with Rachel. “Am I God?” he asked. “He’s the one who has kept you from having children!”

Proverbs 30:15-16(NKJV) - The leech has two daughters— Give and Give! There are three things that are never satisfied, Four never say, “Enough!”: The grave, The barren womb, The earth that is not satisfied with water— And the fire never says, “Enough!”

Listen to me. Some men might not really care to have children but according to Proverbs 30:15-16, the barren womb is never satisfied. If a woman has no children and she wants to have a child, there is nothing in the world that you can give her in place of that and The Bible acknowledges it. She can have all the money in the world, all the power, all the fame, her pick of men, the ability to travel anywhere, perfect health, good looks, everything you could imagine but she will never be able to fully let go of the thought of having children.

As a result, if there is any solution available for infertility, any woman in her right mind would at least consider it. She will never give up until it's either impossible or her spirit is completely broken. Hence, it doesn't matter what scripture you quote, you cannot tell a woman she should be okay with never having children when she wants children. Like the grave that takes and takes but doesn't give back, a desert that soaks up water and is quickly dry again or a fire that continues to burn as long as it has fuel and oxygen, the desire of a woman to have her first child cannot be quenched.

Genesis 1:26-28(NKJV) - Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Before we move on to anything else, let's establish that as human beings we are mandated by God in Genesis 1:26-28 to be fruitful and multiply. As a result, just to carry out God's plan we must have children so the desire to have children is built into our DNA. The truth is that everyone will not have children. In fact, everyone will not even get married so that they can have children according to God's order. Regardless, someone has to have children for God's plan in Genesis 1:26-28 to continue. That person might as well be you.

So what's The Bible's solution for infertility?

1) Pray

Philippians 4:6(NKJV) - Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;

Genesis 25:21(NLT) - Isaac pleaded with the Lord on behalf of his wife, because she was unable to have children. The Lord answered Isaac’s prayer, and Rebekah became pregnant with twins.

Obviously, we can assume that a Christian couple who has started looking for medical solutions to infertility has already prayed. However, let's not make any assumptions and be thorough in our approach. Pray, then pray, then pray some more. That's such a religious sounding answer to someone in the middle of a tough situation but we have to always say it just in case people need a reminder. Like any other challenge you face in life, pray first, ask questions later. Once you pray, The Lord will then direct your steps. Sometimes, He just miraculously heals without the involvement of any human processes but sometimes He brings deliverance through processes that are already in existence.

2 Chronicles 16:12-13(NKJV) - And in the thirty-ninth year of his reign, Asa became diseased in his feet, and his malady was severe; yet in his disease he did not seek the Lord, but the physicians. So Asa rested with his fathers; he died in the forty-first year of his reign.

Don't be Asa. Never trust physicians more than you trust God. The end! Okay, well not the end but you get my point. If you meet with doctors before you meet with God you might exacerbate your problem instead of getting a solution. Let me say something again, but this time in a different way. God will either miraculously heal you by His supernatural hand or He will use the hands of a medical professional or some other natural process. The point is, we must go to God first and then let Him direct the process.

Mark 5:25-28(NLT) - A woman in the crowd had suffered for twelve years with constant bleeding. She had suffered a great deal from many doctors, and over the years she had spent everything she had to pay them, but she had gotten no better. In fact, she had gotten worse. She had heard about Jesus, so she came up behind him through the crowd and touched his robe. For she thought to herself, “If I can just touch his robe, I will be healed.”

The woman with the issue of blood spent all of her money at doctors before she ever got to Jesus who then healed her for free. We can't let the cart drive the horse and then be surprised when things don't work out. First, reach out and touch Jesus then He will either heal you instantly or He'll give you instructions to receive your healing like He did in John 9:7. This leads us to #2.

2) Explore Medical Options

Mark 2:17(NLT) - When Jesus heard this, he told them, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.”

Colossians 4:14(NLT) - Luke, the beloved doctor, sends his greetings, and so does Demas.

After prayer and by the direction of God, it is totally fine to visit the doctor for help. If something's wrong with your car you visit a mechanic. If something's wrong with your building you call a structural engineer or building contractor. If something's wrong with the electrical wiring in your house you call an electrician. If there's a pipe leaking you call a plumber. If something's wrong with your teeth you see a dentist. So if something's wrong with your body you see a doctor. There's absolutely nothing wrong with doctors. Luke, one of the disciples of Paul was a beloved doctor. Even Jesus acknowledged that people who are sick need a doctor so that's what they are there for.

There are many medical treatments available for infertility once the cause is known. When most of the treatments don't work they turn to in vitro fertilization. Here's what the Mayo Clinic has to say about in vitro fertilization;

"In vitro fertilization (IVF) is a complex series of procedures used to treat fertility or genetic problems and assist with the conception of a child. During IVF, mature eggs are collected (retrieved) from your ovaries and fertilized by sperm in a lab. Then the fertilized egg (embryo) or eggs are implanted in your uterus. One cycle of IVF takes about two weeks.

IVF is the most effective form of assisted reproductive technology. The procedure can be done using your own eggs and your partner's sperm. Or IVF may involve eggs, sperm or embryos from a known or anonymous donor. In some cases, a gestational carrier — a woman who has an embryo implanted in her uterus — might be used.

Your chances of having a healthy baby using IVF depend on many factors, such as your age and the cause of infertility. In addition, IVF can be time-consuming, expensive and invasive. If more than one embryo is implanted in your uterus, IVF can result in a pregnancy with more than one fetus (multiple pregnancy)."

As long as the husband's sperm and the wife's egg are used in the process I don't see any scriptural basis for objection. Their physical bodies are not functioning properly for some reason so a medical procedure has been created to bring healing to the process. Regardless of the way the sperm gets to the egg, under the right conditions, the biological process stays the same. What we don't control is how the spirit enters the embryo. That's God's decision.

Ecclesiastes 12:7(KJV) - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Just like a spirit returns to God at death and the body decomposes, a human spirit comes from God at conception and the body starts to grow. Perhaps, the entrance of the spirit causes conception? Think about that. I believe that the spirit of a human being plays a role in controlling how DNA triggers the process of cell multiplication in a fertilized egg. This explains why even under perfect conditions, the process never works 100%. Doctors cannot guarantee that cell replication will take place resulting in the development of a fetus when they implant a sperm into an egg.

Jeremiah 1:4-6(NLT) - The Lord gave me this message: “I knew you before I formed you in your mother’s womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.”

Did you see that? Jeremiah existed before his body was formed in his mother's womb, not just before birth. It's easy to acknowledge that God set him apart before birth because when you look at an ultrasound you see a person. However, how do you explain the fact that God knew him before he was even formed? Simple. The real Jeremiah existed before the physical Jeremiah and when the physical Jeremiah died, his body decomposed and his spirit returned to God.

Psalms 139:13-16(NLT) - You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb. Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex! Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it. You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed.

Doctors do their part but God chooses whether or not the process of conception ever begins because there is no conception of a human without a human spirit that comes from God. This explains why no human being is a mistake. It doesn't matter the conditions of a sperm entering an egg, only God determines whether or not a fetus will form. He forms it. The only part of the process we control is the physical act of bringing the sperm and egg together whether through natural or scientifically enhanced processes. God determines if that embryo fully develops. Regardless, this brings us to #3 which is a stern warning.

3) Think Carefully Before Including A Third Person!

Genesis 16:1-6(NLT) - Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had not been able to bear children for him. But she had an Egyptian servant named Hagar. So Sarai said to Abram, “The Lord has prevented me from having children. Go and sleep with my servant. Perhaps I can have children through her.” And Abram agreed with Sarai’s proposal. So Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar the Egyptian servant and gave her to Abram as a wife. (This happened ten years after Abram had settled in the land of Canaan.) So Abram had sexual relations with Hagar, and she became pregnant. But when Hagar knew she was pregnant, she began to treat her mistress, Sarai, with contempt. Then Sarai said to Abram, “This is all your fault! I put my servant into your arms, but now that she’s pregnant she treats me with contempt. The Lord will show who’s wrong—you or me!” Abram replied, “Look, she is your servant, so deal with her as you see fit.” Then Sarai treated Hagar so harshly that she finally ran away.

One popular solution for infertility is the involvement of surrogates. In this situation, the sperm of a man is used to fertilize the egg of a woman outside of the body and the resulting embryo is placed into the womb of another woman. Sometimes, the couple desiring the baby donates the sperm and egg but many times, other people donate either the sperm or the egg or both. These donors can be anonymous. Though it sounds like a good idea when you first think of it, Abraham and Sarah tried their version of that option and it didn't turn out well.

When the process of conceiving a child involves three or four people the door swings open wide for drama. Right now, there's a famous actress who divorced her husband while a surrogate was carrying their baby. Since the "fertilized eggs" were not her own she claims that she's technically not the mother and should hold no responsibility for the child. The case is probably still dragging through the courts today. The person in the worst position in that situation is the surrogate mother who essentially plays the role of Hagar. She was just trying to help out and now she just can't win. This brings us to Option #4.

4) Adopt

Ephesians 1:3-5(NLT) - All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ. Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.

Do you know that every single one of us in The Body of Christ are adopted into His family? That's because we were born into sin and without Jesus are left outside of God's family. That's the example God set for us. When we were separated from Him and left out in the cold with only the devil as our father, God reached out and adopted us. If a Christian couple can't have children, adoption is always an option. That's why, the first step is always to pray. When you pray, God's solution might just be adoption.

James 1:27(NKJV) - Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

What's the most important thing an orphan needs? A loving family! Right now there is a young lady living in your area contemplating aborting her unborn child because she knows she is not ready to be a mother. Why can't someone else who is willing and able raise the child? While there are Christian married couples crying out to God for a child of their own, there are unwed mothers crying out to God because they have children and can't take care of them. In the end, we end up with two problems. Parents who cannot or choose not to take care of their children and parents who cannot have children. Included in the first category are parents who died and left behind their children. Adoption is the solution to both problems.

We will end this blog today with a Word from The Lord;

Isaiah 54:1-6(NLT) - “Sing, O childless woman, you who have never given birth! Break into loud and joyful song, O Jerusalem, you who have never been in labor. For the desolate woman now has more children than the woman who lives with her husband,” says the Lord. “Enlarge your house; build an addition. Spread out your home, and spare no expense! For you will soon be bursting at the seams. Your descendants will occupy other nations and resettle the ruined cities. “Fear not; you will no longer live in shame. Don’t be afraid; there is no more disgrace for you. You will no longer remember the shame of your youth and the sorrows of widowhood. For your Creator will be your husband; the Lord of Heaven’s Armies is his name! He is your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel, the God of all the earth. For the Lord has called you back from your grief—as though you were a young wife abandoned by her husband,” says your God.

One: The Power of Speaking The Same Language

Date - Sunday, August 9th, 2015

The Body Church

3015 Rainbow Dr,

Suite #142,

Building #3009,

Decatur, GA 30034

1 Corinthians 12:12(NLT) - The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ.


10:00 AM - Worship With Prayer


Apostolic Mentorship

Apostolic Mentorship

Ecclesiastes 1:9-10(NLT) - History merely repeats itself. It has all been done before. Nothing under the sun is truly new. Sometimes people say, “Here is something new!” But actually it is old; nothing is ever truly new.

Have you ever felt like you're the only one going through what you're going through? I have, at times, but I know that's not true. Nothing's new. It's happened before. It might be new to you or me but it's not new to mankind. After thousands of years and billions of people we're running out of unique experiences on the earth. Somebody has felt your hurt before. Someone has experienced your failure before. Someone's been disappointed just like you before. Someone has been in your situation before. In the same vein, someone has had your gift before. Someone has had a similar opportunity before. Someone's had to make a similar decision before. It's not new. It's just new to you.

As I prepared to walk out the door of a previous job into a much better position elsewhere I asked the president of my former company for any advice he could give. At the top of his list was a simple instruction; "Find a mentor. That person will be an invaluable resource throughout the course of your journey." Coincidentally, in preparation for my new position I read the book, "Passing It On" by Dr. Myles Munroe. Contained within it was the same principle of mentorship and how crucial it is to the continued success of The Church of Jesus Christ. With that in mind, I invite you to Friday night's session of this weekend's conference "Building The Church" at The Body Church in Decatur, GA.

At that session my mother, Apostle Jemma Duncan, will officially launch her new book, "Common Mistakes Women Make" in the US market. It's a labor of love to women in the church from a mother of three, wife of almost forty years, pastor of many, radio and television host of "Ask Pastor Jemma", prolific author, Bible School founder and retired elementary school teacher. Each time I hear my mother teach God's Word I am amazed at how clearly the Voice of God is communicated through her words. My mother taught me how to write as a young elementary school student when I would get all A's except for a huge C in Creative Writing. As a young preacher, my mother would critique some of my early messages and helped hone my teaching style.

Titus 2:1-7(NLT) - As for you, Titus, promote the kind of living that reflects wholesome teaching. Teach the older men to exercise self-control, to be worthy of respect, and to live wisely. They must have sound faith and be filled with love and patience. Similarly, teach the older women to live in a way that honors God. They must not slander others or be heavy drinkers. Instead, they should teach others what is good. These older women must train the younger women to love their husbands and their children, to live wisely and be pure, to work in their homes, to do good, and to be submissive to their husbands. Then they will not bring shame on the word of God. In the same way, encourage the young men to live wisely. And you yourself must be an example to them by doing good works of every kind. Let everything you do reflect the integrity and seriousness of your teaching.

Older women must train the younger women to be good wives and mothers, to make wise decisions, to be pure, to take care of their homes, to do well and respect their husbands. In the same way, older men must teach younger men to make wise decisions as men, husbands and fathers. This is the model of The Church. We're not supposed to figure everything out for ourselves, we're supposed to receive and then pass down generational wisdom from which The Church can grow to please God. I didn't have a name for this principle so I created one; "Apostolic Mentorship". Older women are church mothers and older men are church fathers with years of experience from which the rest of us can benefit. We are a family and when things are done right, we won't repeat mistakes.

1 Corinthians 10:13(NLT) - The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.

Women, this Friday was set up especially for you. Someone else has felt the way you feel. Someone else has faced the challenges you face. Your temptations have been on repeat throughout history. God is faithful and wants to provide you with answers to your many questions. Your questions have been asked before and the answers have already been given. The answers you need are out there and you can get them if you make yourself available to receive them. With that, I am reminded of the common saying, "If we don't learn from our mistakes, we are doomed to repeat them." Praise God, that won't happen to you. See you on Friday at The Body Church for the launch of "Common Mistakes Women Make".

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Join The Conversation: Building Apostolic Communities

Fostering and Forging Apostolic Communities

Psalms 133:1-3(NLT) - Behold, how good and how pleasant it is For brethren to dwell together in unity! It is like the precious oil upon the head, Running down on the beard, The beard of Aaron, Running down on the edge of his garments. It is like the dew of Hermon, Descending upon the mountains of Zion; For there the Lord commanded the blessing— Life forevermore.

This Thursday, August 20th, we are excited to have as a special guest at Coffee Shop Conversations, Apostle Jemma Duncan, the author of "Fostering and Forging Apostolic Communities". This will officially kick off, "Building The Church", our revolutionary weekend of meetings at The Body Church with both Apostles Jemma and Emanuel Vivian Duncan. For this week, this blog will serve simply to whet your appetite as we await The Word of The Lord through the Apostles.

Acts 2:1-12(NLT) - When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.” So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?”

Our latest sermon series at The Body Church is called "One" and it's an intense study of unity in the local church first and then in The Body of Christ as a whole. When we look at the beginning of The Church in Acts 2 we see a couple simple things happen in a very specific sequence with fascinating results. Let's take a look.

How The Church Was Built!

1) Jesus left a group of 120 people to wait for The Holy Spirit in The Upper Room. This was the first step of the process. Jesus said wait for The Holy Spirit before doing anything else and they obeyed.

2) They were unified in one place until The Holy Spirit showed up and anointed everyone of them. The Bible said that they were in one accord in one place. That's the type of atmosphere that's ripe for a move of God's Spirit.

3) They all received a common language (The Language of The Spirit) which enabled them to say the same things (testify of God's wonderful works) with completely different tongues, none of which were native to them but were easily understood by the foreigners gathered around listening to them.

4) Apostle Peter stood up and preached the first church sermon ever and it was a long one. Someone has to say something even though everyone experiences the power of The Holy Spirit. Church communities cannot grow without good teaching. Talking in tongues, prayer, prophesying, dancing, falling out, etc. are all good but preaching is important too.

5) The message ended with an altar call during which the first 3000 people got saved. Peter taught the people about the crucified and resurrected Jesus and they responded by committing their lives. Jesus was lifted up from the earth and He drew all men to Himself. He just did it that time through Peter.

6) The Church developed from 120 people waiting for The Holy Spirit in a room to a community of at least 3,120 who engaged in some very specific activities outlined in the following verses.

Acts 2:40-47(NLT) - And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.” Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord’s Supper), and to prayer. A deep sense of awe came over them all, and the apostles performed many miraculous signs and wonders. And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity all the while praising God and enjoying the goodwill of all the people. And each day the Lord added to their fellowship those who were being saved.

7) They devoted themselves to The Apostle's teaching. In other words, The Apostles kept teaching and the people kept doing what they were taught. One sermon from Peter, though quite effective, was not enough. The same applies to us.

8) They devoted themselves to fellowship. People spent time together which meant that even though they were different they learned to get along. We can't hate each other and fellowship. Church communities share life together. Lone rangers have no place in church. Plug in!

9) They devoted themselves to sharing meals including Communion. When people eat together it builds community. The same way families grow when they all sit at the table together, church communities grow when people eat together. Note that I didn't say churches grow. I said church communities. There's a difference. You can have a big church but that doesn't make it a community. 😉

10) They committed themselves to prayer. Have you ever heard the saying, "the family that prays together stays together?" Well, it applies to church families too. When it's time to pray we should all show up in the same numbers as when it's time to listen to The Word, hang out together or eat. All four are crucial to building the church community. You can't leave out any of them.

11) When the top ten were complete, God moved through miraculous signs and wonders among The Church. That was the order. The first miracle was The Holy Ghost falling upon everybody, then other miracles followed.

12) They helped each other out. Church communities take care of their own. We look out for each other first even before we try to look out for the community around us. We are a community already. It starts at "home".

13) They went to church consistently. You can't build a church community if people don't go to church. That's an easy step to follow because it's directly related to being devoted to The Apostle's teaching. People who show up on Sunday morning get something to follow during the week.

14) They hung out at each other's homes. This one's special for me because I grew up in a pastor's home where people would show up at our house uninvited, some of whom we did not even know. Thankfully, those days are over. However, church communities grow as people spend time at each other's homes when invited, of course.

15) They enjoyed each other. This seems too simple to make the list but it's pretty important. We have to enjoy each other's company. When people like each other, they enjoy each other. Truthfully, you don't have to like everybody you meet or even know, but at the very least, you should like the people at your church. To build the community you should enjoy each other's company.

With these 15 characteristics in place The Church community grew daily as God kept adding people. Additionally, miracles and wonders were done consistently at the hands of The Apostles. If that does not describe your church community, you're invited to Coffee Shop Conversations on Thursday night. If it does, you're also invited because we would love to hear how you do it. Today's blog is just a quick introduction. It doesn't do justice to what my mother, Apostle Jemma Duncan will teach from her book, "Fostering and Forging Apostolic Communities". If you live in the Atlanta area, don't miss it. What are your thoughts? Join the conversation.

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Hearing God's Voice

Date - Sunday, August 2nd, 2015

The Body Church
3015 Rainbow Dr,
Suite #142,
Building #3009,
Decatur, GA 30034

1 Corinthians 12:12(NLT) - The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ.

10:00 AM - Worship With Prayer


Divine Encounters With Jesus - Only Believe


Date - Sunday, July 26th, 2015

The Body Church
3015 Rainbow Dr,
Suite #142,
Building #3009,
Decatur, GA 30034

1 Corinthians 12:12(NLT) - The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ.

10:00 AM - Worship With Prayer


Identity "Christ-is" (Part Two)

Date - Sunday, July 19th, 2015

The Body Church
Courtyard Atlanta Midtown/ Georgia Tech
1132 Techwood Dr NW, Atlanta
GA 30318

1 Corinthians 12:12(NLT) - The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ.

10:00 AM - Worship With Prayer


The Body Church: Identity "Christ - Is" (Part One)

Date - Sunday, July 12th, 2015

The Body Church
Courtyard Atlanta Midtown/ Georgia Tech
1132 Techwood Dr NW, Atlanta
GA 30318

1 Corinthians 12:12(NLT) - The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ.

10:00 AM - Worship With Prayer


Ask Donnell: How Should The Church Address Homosexuality?

Crown of Thorns

We received the following question;

"Good morning Pastor Donnell. The question I have is for you and Pastor Angel. It’s a sensitive topic which has been present in my mind for a great deal of time. In what way is the Church of Christ to deal and treat with homosexuality in the church? To be more specific, if there may be an individual or individuals struggling and battling with homosexuality in the church, and he/she knows it is wrong but can’t shake off that spirit, how should a pastor or any one in particular support and help heal that person? Also, what do you recommend if he or she is afraid to ask for help?"

Yes, this is a sensitive topic. You hit the nail on the head with that one. Thanks for being bold enough to submit the question. Pastor Angel prayed for God to help me answer your question. This is one of those topics I know I have to address at some point but I rather delay it as long as I can to avoid the inevitable controversy. However, you have effectively forced my hand. Homosexuality has slowly developed into an acceptable lifestyle choice in popular culture and the only safe public position in the eyes of the world is to support it. If you take the risk of publicly opposing it you position yourself for intense backlash and are likely to be called insensitive, unloving and/ or a bigot.

Regardless, as The Church of Jesus Christ, we only have one position on every issue and that's the truth. Hence, Jesus prayed in John 17:17(KJV); "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." So before we get into how to deal with the issue let's establish what the truth is through The Word of God, the source of truth. In 1 Timothy 3:15, the Apostle Paul calls The Church of The Living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. It's better to keep any discussion on homosexuality within the confines of scripture than to start throwing personal opinions around triggering useless and tiring debates about nothing. We'll see what The Bible says and leave it there. If someone disagrees with The Bible they can seek The Lord for better understanding.

Let's start from the beginning. The first point we must establish is The Bible's position on homosexuality. This has come up for vigorous debate in both secular and religious circles. Does The Bible support it? Does it condemn it? Is it silent? Does it send mixed messages? If we can't establish a solid scriptural foundation any arguments we present will be shaky and need not be considered. If The Bible has no position, The Church, as a whole, has no position and the issue will be left up to personal interpretation. If The Bible has no issues with homosexuality neither should we. So unless there's a problem with it, we don't need to try to help anyone who's living that lifestyle because they should be just fine. So here we go...

Genesis 18:20-23(NLT) - So the Lord told Abraham, "I have heard a great outcry from Sodom and Gomorrah, because their sin is so flagrant. I am going down to see if their actions are as wicked as I have heard. If not, I want to know." The other men turned and headed toward Sodom, but the Lord remained with Abraham.

Genesis 19:4-11(NLT) - But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!" So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. "Please, my brothers," he begged, "don't do such a wicked thing. Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection." "Stand back!" they shouted. "This fellow came to town as an outsider, and now he's acting like our judge! We'll treat you far worse than those other men!" And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door. But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door. Then they blinded all the men, young and old, who were at the door of the house, so they gave up trying to get inside.

2 Peter 2:6-9(NLT) - Later, God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and turned them into heaps of ashes. He made them an example of what will happen to ungodly people. But God also rescued Lot out of Sodom because he was a righteous man who was sick of the shameful immorality of the wicked people around him. Yes, Lot was a righteous man who was tormented in his soul by the wickedness he saw and heard day after day.

Jude 7(NLT) - And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.

I'm sure you heard the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. God destroyed those cities with fire and brimstone but rescued Lot's family because of his faithfulness. One of the many issues highlighted by the scriptures concerning Sodom and Gomorrah was homosexuality. Pay close attention to the sequence of the scripture excerpts listed above. This can be considered as one of the foundational accounts of homosexuality in The Bible. I deliberately chose this account because it precludes Mosaic law and the endless arguments which surround the applicability of any of the resulting Levitical precepts in the modern age of grace.

Starting with Genesis 18:20, God specifically said that He would go down to Sodom and see if the wickedness matched their reputation. Fast forward to Genesis 19:4-11 which recounts what happened when the two angels who accompanied God to visit Abraham left to visit Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah. What did they see? What type of wickedness was highlighted in their visit? I will reserve my opinion. You can answer that question for yourself by reading the scripture. Then, when you read 2 Peter 2:6-9 and Jude 7, you will have a solid grasp of The Bible's position. You can also read 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10 for some supporting scriptures. That's the foundation. Now let's move on to what's going on right now in our society.

Romans 1:21-27(NLT) - Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles. So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Welcome to the 21st century. When people reject God for who He is, they create their own idea of God. For some strange reason the scripture presents a direct correlation between a rejection of God's truth and the rise of homosexual tendencies. I don't mean to beat a dead horse but before we find a solution, we need to diagnose the problem. The first issue that must be dealt with is whether or not The Bible supports the homosexual lifestyle. If it does not, then we can reach out and help those who are caught up in it. If it does, then they don't need our help. Obviously, it does not. Hence, the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sin is a non-issue. With that out of the way, let's move on to answering your question. How do we address homosexuality in The Church?

Galatians 6:1-3(NLT) - Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself. Share each other's burdens, and in this way obey the law of Christ. If you think you are too important to help someone, you are only fooling yourself. You are not that important.

In your question you outlined that the person you are referring to is struggling with homosexuality and is fully aware that it is wrong. As a result, the discussion of whether or not homosexuality is wrong is irrelevant to that person so you can leave that out of the situation completely. Someone like that, who is fully aware of their sin does not need to be reminded that it is sin. They know that already. According to Galatians 6:1-3, they need support. They need love. They need someone to share their burden. They also need people around them who are not currently struggling with the same sin and can possibly fall into the same temptation. That's the primary responsibility of brothers and sisters in Christ.

When a Christian is struggling with a sin like homosexuality it's tough to deal with it. There is a lot of shame attached to it. That's another reason why the scripture reference above says those who are Godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. Pay attention to the specific criteria listed. First, this role is reserved for those who are Godly, otherwise referred to as spiritual in other translations. People who are spiritual manifest the Fruit of The Spirit as listed in Galatians 5:22-23.

Galatians 5:22-23(NLT) - But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!

Carnal folks who are overcome by their own sins tend to magnify the sins of others to draw attention away from themselves. Jesus said in Matthew 7:3-5 that they see the specks in other people's eyes and ignore the logs in their own. Homosexuality is wrong. The person gets it. It's a struggle that the person's losing so help out. Christian people caught up in that lifestyle are in the fight of their lives against a relentless enemy. They need the rest of us to jump in and fight alongside them. When someone is drowning you don't describe the water, you reach out and pull the person in. Now let's get to the heavy stuff.

Mark 3:27(NLT) - Let me illustrate this further. Who is powerful enough to enter the house of a strong man like Satan and plunder his goods? Only someone even stronger—someone who could tie him up and then plunder his house.

2 Corinthians 10:3-69(NLT) - We are human, but we don’t wage war as humans do. We use God’s mighty weapons, not worldly weapons, to knock down the strongholds of human reasoning and to destroy false arguments. We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ.

Homosexuality is a strong man. It's a spiritual and mental stronghold that's not easily broken except by the power of The Spirit of God. It is not to be taken lightly nor treated frivolously. A person under the influence of homosexuality is under a powerful influence and it's no joke. There are few among us who operate in the kind of spiritual authority it takes to attack it head on. I once visited a church that had opened its doors to minister specifically to the homosexual community of Atlanta. It was housed in a beautiful building that continues to stand today.

I believe it was a labor of love at the beginning but in the end, the church were completely overrun with homosexuality to the point that even the pastor and elders were visibly struggling with homosexuality. Those precious brothers and sisters came to The Church in response to a show of love which fortunately, they did receive. However, what they they did not receive was deliverance. Therefore, I learned a valuable lesson that I will teach you today.

There are at least three parts to this process. One is an outpouring of love, the second is the establishment of truth and the third is a demonstration of the power of God for deliverance. If we are to properly respond to homosexuality in The Church we must love people like Jesus loves us, speak the truth in love and let love drive us to operate in the power of God.

John 8:32(NLT) - And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

2 Corinthians 3:17(NLT) - For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Now let's get some balance. What sets people free? Truth! And what is truth? The Word of God. It may come in the form of a prophetic Word. It may come in the form of a sermon. It may come in the form of a song of The Lord. In whatever form it comes, the truth will set you free. This is important to understand because love does not preclude the need to speak the truth. You need both. Hence, in Ephesians 4:15 we are instructed to speak the truth in love. There's no point in loving people but leaving them in bondage. They need the truth so that they can get their freedom. The truth for someone in denial is to show them their sin but for someone who accepts their sin, show them the solution.

In addition, once the presence of The Holy Spirit is strong in your church, that's a great place for deliverance from any kind of sin. God has His ways of dealing with certain issues in the fullness of time. As a result, anyone struggling with any sin including homosexuality just needs to keep showing up in an atmosphere of love and truth that's teeming with God's presence. Sooner or later, the combination of love, truth and the presence of The Holy Spirit will jumpstart the process of freedom that may have stalled for years. If any of these three fundamental elements of deliverance is missing there won't be much success.

John 8:36(KJV) - If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11(NLT) - Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

James 5:13-16(NKJV) - Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Last, but definitely not least. For anyone struggling with any sin, these three preceding scriptures outline the process of cleansing right there. Call on the name of Jesus and allow the Spirit of God to move freely through your life. Call on the elders and let them anoint and pray over you. Find someone full of The Holy Ghost that you can talk to about what you're struggling with. Let that person pray for you too. God does not condemn you and neither do we. We love you. We give you the truth. We pray for you. That's our job. That's how we deal with homosexuality. That's how we deal with sin. That's how we deal with life.

If you want to learn more, read this blog; "Ask Donnell: Why Can't I Stop Going Back To This Sin?"


Ask Donnell: Has The Church Replaced Israel In God's Plan?

Ask Donnell: Has The Church Replaced Israel In God's Plan?

We received the following question;

"Some people believe that The Church is spiritual Israel. Has The Church replaced Israel in God's plan? If so, what's God's plan for The Nation of Israel?"

Is The Church spiritual Israel? That is a fascinating question. I've heard the concept before and definitely understand why anyone would believe that to be the case. This idea has been referred to as "Replacement Theology" or some version of it by its critics. It purports that The Church replaced Israel in God's plans, prophecies, etc. especially when it comes to Eschatology or End Time Prophecies. The New Covenant with The Church replaced The Old Covenant with Israel. Circumcision of the heart replaced physical circumcision, etc., etc. Therefore, after The Book of Acts, anywhere we see the future of Israel in The Bible we can put The Church in there. Here's two scriptures that could cause some to start thinking along those lines.

Romans 2:25-29, 3:1-2, 9-10, 29-31(NLT) - The Jewish ceremony of circumcision has value only if you obey God's law. But if you don't obey God's law, you are no better off than an uncircumcised Gentile. And if the Gentiles obey God's law, won't God declare them to be his own people? In fact, uncircumcised Gentiles who keep God's law will condemn you Jews who are circumcised and possess God's law but don't obey it. For you are not a true Jew just because you were born of Jewish parents or because you have gone through the ceremony of circumcision. No, a true Jew is one whose heart is right with God. And true circumcision is not merely obeying the letter of the law; rather, it is a change of heart produced by God's Spirit. And a person with a changed heart seeks praise from God, not from people....3:1 - Then what's the advantage of being a Jew? Is there any value in the ceremony of circumcision? Yes, there are great benefits! First of all, the Jews were entrusted with the whole revelation of God... 9 Well then, should we conclude that we Jews are better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all people, whether Jews or Gentiles, are under the power of sin. 10 As the Scriptures say, "No one is righteous— "No one is righteous— not even one.... 29 After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn't he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles. Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law.

Galatians 3:26-29(NLT) - For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on the character of Christ, like putting on new clothes. There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and God's promise to Abraham belongs to you.

So what do you see in those two scriptures? Has The Church replaced The Nation of Israel as God's Children? It may appear so to the untrained eye. However, what we're really seeing here is that the believers in Christ out of The Gentiles combined with the believers in Christ out of The Nation of Israel make up The Church. Together, we are God's Children. All who are in Christ are one and God doesn't distinguish between us when it comes to His promise of blessings. We, The Church of Jesus Christ don't replace Israel, we just join the believers in Christ from Israel. Hence, those who accept Christ of Jewish or Gentile heritage are treated the same.

Also, those who reject Jesus, both of Jewish and Gentile heritage will see the same fate for eternity. It's no longer good enough just to be born a Jew. Everyone has to get saved through faith in Jesus. Let me say it another way to drive the point home. Jews who reject Jesus go to hell. Gentiles who reject Jesus go to hell. Jews who accept Jesus are in God's family and spend eternity with Him. Gentiles who accept Jesus are in His family and join the Jewish believers in God's family. However, that doesn't mean Jews aren't special in God's sight. Jesus said in John 4:22(KJV) - "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews."

God's plan of redemption was fulfilled in Jesus who was a Jew and continued with The Apostles who were also Jews. They preached the gospel in Jerusalem to Jews who were the first to get saved and establish The Church. It was all about Jews getting saved until God directed several Apostles to take the show on the road and preach the gospel to the Gentiles. Therefore, The Gentiles who received Jesus joined The Jews who believed in Jesus in The Church. So, the concept of The Church replacing Jews won't make sense because The Church is full of Jews. Nonetheless, ethnic Jews still exist, so what's God's plan for The Nations of Israel and Judah?

Isaiah 45:17(NLT) - But the Lord will save the people of Israel with eternal salvation. Throughout everlasting ages, they will never again be humiliated and disgraced.

God plans to save the people of Israel also. However, let's not get carried away and think this means they don't need Jesus to get saved. Fast forward to The New Testament for more clarity concerning God's plan to save His people Israel and Judah.

Romans 9:22-29(NLT) - In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who were made for destruction. He does this to make the riches of his glory shine even brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were prepared in advance for glory. And we are among those whom he selected, both from the Jews and from the Gentiles. Concerning the Gentiles, God says in the prophecy of Hosea, "Those who were not my people, I will now call my people. And I will love those whom I did not love before." And, "Then, at the place where they were told, 'You are not my people,' there they will be called 'children of the living God.'" And concerning Israel, Isaiah the prophet cried out, "Though the people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved. For the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth quickly and with finality." And Isaiah said the same thing in another place:"If the Lord of Heaven's Armies had not spared a few of our children, we would have been wiped out like Sodom, destroyed like Gomorrah."

So, let's start with the good news. God has a plan for the Gentiles and a plan for The Jews. His plan for The Gentiles was Jesus. His plan for the Jews was Jesus. Are they saved just because they are Jewish or from The Nation of Israel? No! Is Jewish salvation automatic? No! They need Jesus just like we need Jesus. Let's dig in some more into God's plan for Israel.

Romans 10:1-11(NLT) - Dear brothers and sisters, the longing of my heart and my prayer to God is for the people of Israel to be saved. 2 I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal. 3 For they don't understand God's way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God's way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. 4 For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God. 5 For Moses writes that the law's way of making a person right with God requires obedience to all of its commands. 6 But faith's way of getting right with God says, "Don't say in your heart, 'Who will go up to heaven' (to bring Christ down to earth). 7 And don't say, 'Who will go down to the place of the dead' (to bring Christ back to life again)." 8 In fact, it says, "The message is very close at hand; it is on your lips and in your heart." And that message is the very message about faith that we preach: 9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved.

So Apostle Paul's prayer was for Israel's salvation and the only way they would receive that salvation is through confessing with their mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in their heart that God raised Him from the dead. It's a simple plan and it works for everyone. It was Apostle Paul's prayer that the remnant who would we saved would go ahead and accept the path to their salvation by grace through faith in Jesus. Let's now bring this discussion to a close with a powerful scripture.

Romans 11:7-31(NLT) - So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have—the ones God has chosen—but the hearts of the rest were hardened. As the Scriptures say, “God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear.” Likewise, David said, “Let their bountiful table become a snare, a trap that makes them think all is well. Let their blessings cause them to stumble, and let them get what they deserve. Let their eyes go blind so they cannot see, and let their backs be bent forever.” Did God’s people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! They were disobedient, so God made salvation available to the Gentiles. But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves. Now if the Gentiles were enriched because the people of Israel turned down God’s offer of salvation, think how much greater a blessing the world will share when they finally accept it. I am saying all this especially for you Gentiles. God has appointed me as the apostle to the Gentiles. I stress this, for I want somehow to make the people of Israel jealous of what you Gentiles have, so I might save some of them. For since their rejection meant that God offered salvation to the rest of the world, their acceptance will be even more wonderful. It will be life for those who were dead! And since Abraham and the other patriarchs were holy, their descendants will also be holy—just as the entire batch of dough is holy because the portion given as an offering is holy. For if the roots of the tree are holy, the branches will be, too. But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root. “Well,” you may say, “those branches were broken off to make room for me.” Yes, but remember—those branches were broken off because they didn’t believe in Christ, and you are there because you do believe. So don’t think highly of yourself, but fear what could happen. For if God did not spare the original branches, he won’t spare you either. Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe toward those who disobeyed, but kind to you if you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off. And if the people of Israel turn from their unbelief, they will be grafted in again, for God has the power to graft them back into the tree. You, by nature, were a branch cut from a wild olive tree. So if God was willing to do something contrary to nature by grafting you into his cultivated tree, he will be far more eager to graft the original branches back into the tree where they belong. I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say, "The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem, and he will turn Israel away from ungodliness. And this is my covenant with them, that I will take away their sins." Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For God's gifts and his call can never be withdrawn. Once, you Gentiles were rebels against God, but when the people of Israel rebelled against him, God was merciful to you instead. Now they are the rebels, and God's mercy has come to you so that they, too, will share in God's mercy.

The Apostle Paul settled the issue in this passage of scripture. Israel is the root and we, The Gentiles were grafted into the tree because Israel rejected Jesus and made room for us. Those who were grafted in have not replaced the original branches and we must stop saying that. They will be grafted in again to join us. God added to His family those who would believe and will add the people of Israel again when they choose to believe in Jesus. Israel will be saved. In fact, the time is coming when they will open their hearts to hear the gospel and everyone of them will accept Jesus.

WAIT? Did he also say what I thought he said? All Israel will be saved? How is that possible? I thought God would only save a remnant? Well, let's make sense of this. First, this scripture is referring to the end of time because it clearly states that a time is coming when the full number of Gentiles will come to Christ. Therefore, after that time no more Gentiles will be getting saved. However, there will be a mass revival in Israel when they will receive Jesus. They will finally understand that He was sent as The Savior to Jerusalem to turn them away from ungodliness. Obviously, those who are ALIVE at the time of the end will be able to accept the truth of the gospel. Those who are dead won't be in Jerusalem anymore so I don't see how this scripture refers to them.

Hence, when this scripture is compared with the others that say only a remnant of Israel will be saved there is an easy way to look at it. All of Israel at that time will be saved. Everyone will recognize Jesus for who He truly is and they will be welcomed into The Body of Christ. They will accept the Good News which is the gospel of Jesus Christ. So, in the end, only those who accept Jesus will be saved. Fortunately, the time is coming when the gospel will be preached in Israel in such a mighty way that all who hear it will believe. Perhaps, this is why God never gives up on Israel. He knows that one day a generation of Jews, referred to as the remnant in the last days, will get it right and accept Jesus.

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